I have a character that I really like. They were originally intended to be the main villain for a particular story arc and then get killed off for good at the end, but I felt they were really interesting and had a lot of potential that wasn't being utilized and tried penciling in a redemption arc for them. The character was originally the best friend of the series' Big Good and a fellow hero before turning to evil, comes back posing as a mentor figure to the protagonist before they reveal their true colors and are defeated by the protagonist. They come off as a weird mix of Mr. Freeze (from Batman: The Animated Series), Dark Willow (from Buffy), Darth Vader, Nox (from Wakfu) and Magneto, if that helps give an idea of their personality.

I am worried about this character becoming a creator’s pet. For context, a creator’s pet is a character that the writer usually adores or relates to personally and devotes an ever-increasing proportion of the story to, often despite vocal dislike from the audience. These characters often become Mary Sues and gain increasing praise from other characters in the story, even if they don't deserve it. Wesley Crusher from Star Trek, Brian Griffin from Family Guy, and the Uchiha Clan as a whole from Naruto are prime examples of this.

The actual context as to why I am worried that my character is in danger of falling into this role is described below. Be warned, this context is kind of long...

I am worried this character is kind of "taking over" the narrative like a cancer. The overall arc of the series feels increasingly about being “the creator’s pet’s story” instead of the actual protagonists. For example, I was working on a prequel idea that was supposed to focus on the origin of the Big Good and their introduction to the hidden world, but I am finding it increasingly focusing on the problematic character's introduction to the hidden world with the future Big Good as their guide. There are reasons for this, the two have excellent chemistry and the problematic character makes an excellent foil and Watson for the future Big Good, and it's fun watching them bounce off each other.

There are easily recognizable reasons why this character is so interesting. The character has an interesting backstory, personality, and worldview, is very memorable in visual design, they are a highly sympathetic Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds, and has a number of traits that are unusual for a protagonist. For example, one notable feature of theirs is their intelligence. Being highly intelligent is seen a common "villain" trait (which is why I gave it to them), but is rarer in heroes unless it is their primary gimmick (i.e., Odysseus, Batman, Sherlock Holmes). Their potential for kindness also feels natural given their history as a hero rather than duck-taped on as with many villains with redemption arcs. Honestly they feel like they work better as an anti-hero or anti-villain than a straight villain. In some ways they come off as more original and a better protagonist than the actual protagonists, who come off as reactive, self-hating everymen (the protagonists aren’t bad characters, but they do fall into the issue of being less proactive and more average).

I'm fine with this character being the tritagonist but I don't want them to become a story tumor. My beta readers have told me they consider this character to be probably the most (or second-most) interesting character in the story, so at least there is some reason to believe it's not just me projecting my own interests onto the audience.

I am self-aware enough to recognize some of my own failings in this character potentially becoming a creator's pet. I do feel like I relate to the character more than many of my others. I don't believe a single one of their villainous actions was justified, however, I understand their feelings of ostracism enough to recognize that the plot as currently stands comes off less like "defeating the horrible monster with the power of friendship" and more of "beating up on the misguided outsider who honestly needs a hug more than being ganged up on". They're also really easy to write for. One thing I have made sure to do is make sure the character has very well-defined flaws that are treated as such and that they are forced to deal with the consequences for them.

What really made me realize there was a problem was when I wrote a short "what if" story showing what the world would be like if the character never turned to evil. Normally when there is a plot of "what if the villain was good" it comes off as shallow wish fulfillment, but in this case it turns out the character still had a lot to say and many of these things were never said in the main timeline. Their presence humanized the Big Good by giving them someone who they could talk to as an equal (and who talked back to them). They also provoked positive character development in the protagonists by acting as a mentor/parental figure, source of positive reinforcement, and positive role model (which one of the protagonists otherwise never gets and comes off as putting on a brave face for the sake of everyone else). Specifically, their comments to the protagonists on not being so shy, repressed, and self-hating come across as a lot more heartfelt because they were once in the exact same situation as them and they know how they feel (and they come off as an example of "you can take pride in who you are and not be evil"). A villain, even reformed villain, making those comments comes off as hollow because that's seen as a "villain" thing that got them into this mess in the first place. Or worse, makes the point that having self-confidence is evil.

However, making this "what if" story the main timeline would mean eliminating a lot of important moments that evoke powerful emotions and define the characters (not to mention removing the source of conflict from the arc due to them no longer being an antagonist), as well as potentially damaging some of the themes (of course, the current plot is kind of hypocritical when it comes to intended themes because of this character anyway). Basically doing so means potentially erasing the moments that made the character sympathetic and myself and my beta readers like the characters in the first place, which sounds like a recipe for a creator's pet to me. For example, this character's story is supposed to be a reality check for the Big Good, as no matter how leaderly the Big Good appears they are only human, as demonstrated by the fact that they couldn't save their best friend from slipping into darkness.

In particular, swapping the timelines completely destroys the characterization of the character that plays a large role in the initial idea for a redemption arc (who is the fourth most developed character after the problematic one and the two leads), specifically the two protagonists' daughter. This is the reason why it's difficult to just have the character ease into the role of the mentor figure after they stop being a villain. In the original plot the fact that the daughter is willing to give the villain a chance and treat them with kindness despite her parents refusing to recognize that they have changed and the daughter having her own problems to deal with is used to show the daughter has the potential to be altruistic and heroic despite being a bratty, confused teenager (and that for all the protagonists' concern they raised her right). On the other hand, the fact that the villain recognizes themselves in the daughter and goes out of their way to prevent them from going down the same path shows they really do regret their actions and have the chance to redeem themselves. The two have a really adorable platonic relationship that goes down the drain if things change. The daughter's character arc is really good and I'm afraid of ruining it. But by that point any chance the villain has to be a parental figure and mentor to the two leads and help them is long gone.

At the same time, none of the interesting character traits that they exhibit in the alternate timeline (which they are supposed to have even in the main timeline) ever show up in the original redemption arc. Instead they come off as constantly depressed and having a case of perma-PTSD over what they have done and never manage to come to terms with it. They barely even talk with the protagonists or the Big Good during their redemption arc. Even though they have a redemption arc they never seem to take full advantage of it as a character.

Honestly, the fact that I am even tempted to swap timelines in the first place to give this character a bigger role and more time to interact with the protagonists, even if it is to provoke character development, just screams "potential creator's pet" to me. I realize the best thing for me to do if I like the character is power through and give them the story they "deserve", telling the best story possible even if it's unhappy to make them more memorable, but I feel like I'm wasting potential and the story feels too depressing to write with little catharsis for the reader (which is bad). I have been trying to find a middle ground between the two plot ideas, but have had little success.

Sorry for all the additional context, I've thought a lot about this issue before seeking external advice and there's a lot to unpack. The tl;dr: question I'm trying to ask here is how do I stop this character from becoming a creator's pet?


5 Answers 5


This sounds like a great character!

I suspect one problem may be your other characters, they simply aren't equally interesting.

One solution is simply accepting that this is the main character. This is the person you want to write a book about. The rest are bystanders. This would solve the screen-time problem, but you would still have to look out for Mary-Sue-ness.

The other solution is to improve the other characters. Find reasons that you want to write more about them.

Either way, I see that you give your story to beta readers. That is good! You might want to prepare them by telling them in advance about your concerns. This will give you more advice about this, at the cost of getting less advice about other problems.

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    That was my thought exactly. It feels the problem isn't that the highly interesting story arc is taking over one that is apparently less so, the problem is that the author seems attached to the previous story arc rather than accepting to pivot fully into the more interesting direction.
    – xLeitix
    May 26, 2020 at 10:38
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    So it's indeed a "kill your darling" situation, but not the one OP has in mind :)
    – xLeitix
    May 26, 2020 at 10:39
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    This is the main character, +1. If you google who that is in Dragonlance, it's Raistlin (the one D&D character not created by either of the authors, of which there's like 11) his twin brother (by default) and the god he tried to defeat ending his character arc in redemption, after which we never hear from him again. That took six books to happen though.
    – Mazura
    May 26, 2020 at 10:41
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    This is the person we want to read about. Your job is to make the filler bearable, so you can milk us for five more books. Improve the other characters, +1, but you'd better not mess with my guy and start feeding me the fan service version of him.
    – Mazura
    May 26, 2020 at 10:53
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    @Mazura While Raistlin was definately the main character for me, Dragons of Summer Flame does have him return. Weis and Hickman do have a bad habit (IMO) of going back to their popular worlds and utterly razing them to the ground. So your enjoyment may vary. May 26, 2020 at 18:20

Try beta readers. You are too close to the story to judge. It's possible that your character is stealing the show by being the most interesting character in it, and interesting characters are the life blood of story.


You have 2 "issues" here, if you want to continue on your original story. First, the issue that you have identified: making this character not take over. Second, the (bigger) issue you've only briefly alluded to:

The interesting traits only show up in the "What-If?"

This tells us that the character's "interesting backstory, personality, and worldview" are all in the author's notes, and not in the story. You need to weave them in, either through flashbacks, or breaks in their "what-have-I-done"-induced depression and PTSD: the moments where they manage to forget all the evil they need to atone for, and be themselves again. These can be happy distractions, raising their spirits, or situations where they are too busy to wallow: disasters and emergencies. Either way, their redemption/recovery arc isn't truly over until they can come to terms with what they did, and return to some semblance of their true personality.

Going back to your first issue, not wanting them to overshadow your protagonist: you've picked some interesting characters for comparison there. Now, here's a couple of counter-examples: Piccolo Jr and Prince Vegeta, from Dragon Ball. Both have more interesting backstories, personalities and worldviews than the protagonists. Both are (to differing extents) reformed villains. But, neither "take over" the story.

This is, in part, because we only see aspects of their life, and (for the most part) only as it relates to the protagonist. We rarely see what other hobbies and interests they have outside of their rivalry with Goku. We don't see Vegeta romancing Bulma between world-ending threats. We don't see Piccolo, well, doing anything on his own behalf, except train himself, train Gohan, and meditate in the wilderness (usually for info-dump purposes). When they are on-screen, it is to help tell the Protagonists' story, not their own.

As for your "beating up the outsider" problem: try refactoring it so that violence isn't the heroes' first resort: they are forced into it to make the villain stop, listen and realise. Not a fight to kill or injure, but a fight to restrain or stop them from carrying out an action (overly simplified, "keep them away from the big red button")


If you really don't want them to be the main character, you must think one or more characters are more deserving. All right:

  1. List them;
  2. Since you understand this one character so well, work out in as much detail as possible what they think of your listed characters and vice versa, and of relationships between those other characters;
  3. Make any necessary corrections to these apparent facts to account for the one character's biases, misconceptions etc.;
  4. Once you're happy with this rich understanding of all those other characters, make those, together with the aforementioned important moments, integral to a rewrite, ensuring you show these facts rather than telling them because, apart from all the other reasons we normally do that, it'll give you even more ideas for how to flesh out your preferred characters;
  5. Accept as you do this rewrite that that one character may still be a big deal, so don't fight what happens.

Chop and Change the Characters.

In the hero's journey every other character -- and their struggle -- is a reflection on the hero. The good thing about this is you can chop and change those struggles if any one character is getting too much attention.

All these characters have a role in-universe and a role out-of-unverse.

For example the wise mentor has an IU role to educate the young hero and OU role to show the reader what would become of the hero if they "gave up the fight" -- ie an old (physically frail) lonely hermit with lots of wasted talent and knowledge. Standard example is Obi-Wan-Kenobi.

Likewise the villain is the primary obstacle (IU) but also shows the reader what might become of the hero if they forget what they are fighting for (OU). Typically the villain has a similar backstory to the hero, but at some stage looked into the darkness and liked what they see. For example Magneto or Darth Vader.

During the story the hero also looks into the darkness (join me Luke), understands the decision, and makes the opposite choice. For example Luke Skywalker turns to the dark side briefly and then comes back. Charles Xavier suffers the same persecution, and has the same motivation to be a supervillain as Magneto, but makes the opposite decision.

So let's suppose you want to write a Charles and Erik plot but it seems Erik is much more interesting and is getting all the screen time. Easy to understand -- he is the more conflicted of the two.

The way to fix this is to recognize Charles is also conflicted for the same reasons, only he makes a different decision in the end. So you can move some of the conflict from Erik's arc and transpose it into Charles'. Then just hint that Erik is going through the same thing.

This way you can tell both sides of the story even if you never swap to Erik's perspective. Charles must (a) foil Erik's evil scheme while (b) dealing with persecution for being a mutant. So in the last act when we get to hear Erik speak we immediately understand and sympathize with him.

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