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Are there techniques that would minimize need to proof-read?

This puzzles me, because I find that it's difficult to get things right "while one writes" (because the flow is different, one may be looking different things). But it's possibly even more difficult to proof-read "a large bulk of unverified text".

Thus, I wonder if there's some magic to this that allows "good writers" to succeed?

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    For practice, I suggest editing questions and answers on the stackexchange sites. You didn't write the text, so you can concentrate entirely on the proofreading. Look things up and make sure you are correct before saving an edit. Make sure not to change the meaning of the text, too.
    – JRE
    Oct 29, 2021 at 9:38
  • I bought this book, Getting the Words Right (online: penguinrandomhouse.com/books/632399/… ), and it helped me to watch out for various kinds of mistakes as I wrote. It's excellent for minor and major editing afterward.
    – Steve
    Oct 29, 2021 at 16:30

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I'm taking "proof-read" to mean checking for typos, orthography, punctuation, grammar etc. The technical term is copy editing.

Copy editing is easy to learn, but it takes quite a bit of time and effort. Because what you'll have to do is learn the rules (and exceptions) of grammar. You will have done quite a bit of that in school, so you know what to do if you want to increase your knowledge and become an expert: get some good books or find some other reliable resources, and learn them.

Of course there are tools today that will help you with this, such as software based spell checkers. These will point out some of the obvious mistakes, but they miss much that requires an understanding of the text. For example, a spell checker doesn't know whether you wanted to write "your" or "you're", and can only point out "yuor". And most spell checkers fail completely when it comes to grammar. Also, it has been shown that many spell checkers point out mistakes where there aren't any, which might confuse you if you don't know the rules yourself. So beware!

As for how I minimize the need to copy edit, I look at what I write and correct my mistakes as I type. I found (when I copy edited the finished text again) that on average I have one mistake every ten pages or so. But my knowledge of orthography and grammar is not perfect and professional copy editors invariably find a couple more mistakes.

But then, copy editing is only the smallest and easiest part of editing. Getting the content right is much harder to accomplish than getting the spelling right. But that, I assume, is another question.

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Personally, I can't say that there's really any way that I know of, besides being really, really particular about grammar and spelling conventions. I consider myself pretty good at naturally remembering stuff, but I still find myself writing too quickly that I miss "they", "their" or "they're" and also mix up "to", "two" and "too" a lot.

I'd say at least to consider basic formatting from the start, so that your text is more easily readable when you go back over it. Even then, it is easy to miss stuff when you think that you're poring over it with much scrutiny - this is why you need other people reading your work. This can be difficult for a number of reasons, whether it's being shy about sharing your writing, a feeling that you shouldn't share till it's done - or even just the difficulty in finding people to do it.

Finding a group of people to write with online or in person is a valuable asset, and they will pick up on many things that you naturally missed, even beyond proofreading.

Whatever the case is, the most important thing is sticking to writing - just sit down and write, not letting things get in the way.

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  • This does not answer the question specifically, because I'm asking to particular techniques. Like "step-by-step" or "process".
    – mavavilj
    Oct 29, 2021 at 8:44
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I don't know if I'm what you'd call a good writer (I only write a blog for fun, I'm no author) but I do it just like you describe. Write the text, then go back and proofread - again and again.

While writing, I concentrate on what I'm trying to say and the wording - content is king. Get all the things in that belong there and in the right order, and written properly (grammar and what have you.)

While thinking over a paragraph before writing it, I'll usually re-read previous paragraphs. I'll often find typos and "thinkos" (wrong word or similarly spelled word.) I generally correct those when I find them.

When the text is all together, I save it and then preview it.

I write in Markdown using a simple text editor. The Markdown code is converted to HTML which I preview in a browser. The text in the browser looks very different from the text in the editor - the layout is different, it uses a different font, paragraph breaks and line breaks occur at different places, the pictures are visible, etc.

That difference in appearance makes it easier to spot wrong things. When you go to look at the text you typed, you've already seen it. When you re-read it, you remember the last time you saw that passage. It looks the same as when you typed it, so it "looks right" even if there are spelling, grammar, or punctuation errors in it. The difference in appearance between the typed text and the preview text is enough to break that connection between the memory of what you wrote and what you are reading.

I re-read the preview a couple of times, looking at flow and content (and catching the occasional typo or punctuation error.) I improve things in the Markdown file, regenerate the HTML, then re-read the preview.

Once it reads well, I make a last pass (or two) to look for spelling, wording, and punctuation errors.

One thing I find that really helps to spot mistakes is to read the text backwards. Start at the bottom and read the last sentence of the last paragraph, then the second to last sentence of the last paragraph, and so on. The idea is to make the text not "look like" what you typed so that your memory of what you intended to type doesn't interfere with seeing what you really typed.


The basis of the way I do proofreading is an experience from technical school in the US Air Force.

I learned drafting in the USAF at a time when it was done on a drafting table with pencil, pen, straight edge and compass.

Every assignment ended the same way: Run a blueprint of the finished drawing, and turn in the drawing and the blueprint for grading.

It never failed: You would spot an error in the blueprint that you missed while reviewing the drawing. We weren't allowed to correct the drawing and reprint. Once you'd made the blueprint, you were done and had to turn in the assignment.

The difference in appearance between the drawing (black ink on mylar) and the copy (blue on paper) tricked your mind just enough that you would see things that were otherwise blotted out by the tendency to see (or read) what you meant to draw (or write.)

That experience is always in the back of my mind when making/writing/doing things. A slight change in appearance often makes it easier to find mistakes.


By the way, I don't use a spellchecker or a grammar checker. Using them while writing interferes with getting "words on paper" - it distracts you from the task of formulating your text. I could run a separate checker after I'm done, but I don't usually bother.

The same goes for formatting. Formatting while writing invites you play around with things that have nothing to do with the content of your text.

Markdown is great in that sense. It has very little in the way of formatting. It has (mostly) semantic formatting - what things are rather than what they should look like. You tell Markdown that a particular piece of text is a heading rather than "font size 20, bold, Helvetica." I don't really care (while writing the text) what it will look like. I flag titles and headings and what not, then let Markdown (and the HTML converter) decide what they should look like.

If you are writing text for print, you might consider Markdown or Latex instead of using Word or other "what you see is what you get" editors. By separating the text from the appearance, you can concentrate more on what you are saying - and it makes proofreading easier since you get a fresh view of the text in its final form.

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Experience.

After a couple dozen back-and-forth iterations between yourself and different proof-readers you are going to develop an intuition for what might be something the proof-readers would point out. That way you can avoid those things in the first place.

Eventually you will be experienced enough that you no longer need proof-readers at all, but this can be a long way.

A list with all the rules of good writing would greatly exceed the scope of a stack exchange answer.

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  • So you claim that it's merely about developing an intuition through a lot of experience. Rather than "there's a list that you can follow and mirror against all your text"? Sounds reasonably, but since grammar rules are formally available, then shouldn't one be able to produce correct writing just by "following some rules somewhere"? I've found that these rules are sometimes ambigious though, because they include "a matter of taste" -component
    – mavavilj
    Oct 29, 2021 at 11:25
  • @mavavilj I did not say that there isn't a list of rules. I just said that listing all the rules and best practices of the English grammar in a single Stack Exchange post would be unreasonable. There are whole books about that topic. Not everyone makes the same mistakes. Grammar rules which seem intuitive for some people seem obscure for others. Which is why you need to figure out what your typical mistakes are and learn how to avoid them. The only way to do that is by learning from others who correct you.
    – Philipp
    Oct 29, 2021 at 12:54
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For me this comes down to the "two forms" in form one I write ideas and that is a fast free-form exercise that comes down to bullet points with no spellcheck, zero punctuation, no grammar, and often,especially.if im.writin on a deviec, sentences that.look.something.like this. I then get into story writing form and that is a more considered process where I actually pay attention to the readability of my handwriting and spellcheck at the end of sentences and all those good things. Idea form writing may be deleted as I integrate the material in it into the story writing that follows but it is never edited such that someone else might read it. I always need to do some proofreading but by splitting my processes so I can take more time with my "finish writing" I've reduced that a lot.

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